|RIGHTS OF WAY|
RIGHTS OF WAY
Please help us protect your rights to trail ride. Without rights of way
trail riding cannot take place and this particular means of enjoying the
countryside will be forever lost.
RIGHTS OF WAY
Please help us protect your rights to trail ride. Without rights of way trail riding cannot take place and this particular means of enjoying the countryside will be forever lost.
Posted 2 May- replacing original 29 April 2021 post
Greetings folks, another request for User Evidence.
We have been advised that the Definitive Map Modification Order claim for Uppermoor Farm Lane, in the parish of Parwich, to be formally recognised as a Byway Open to All Traffic is now being considered.
Although the route is an Adopted highway it currently has no formal classification status. Routes classified as a BOAT would have a public right of way to travel over them by motor vehicles.
To support the original claim we need User Evidence Forms from riders/drivers, especially for the 1984 - 2004 period, records of your earlier or later use would still be welcomed. If you know others who used the route please ask them to complete the forms too.
Your UEF must also include your signed copy of the official consultation map, marked up with the route as ridden/driven by you to personalise it. Your completed documents must be signed, dated and emailed before 21st May 2021 direct to DCC quoting DCC ref: 25356; Hannah.Roberts@derbyshire.gov.uk
Remember to keep a scanned copy for your records and please send an additional copy to us so that we can record it and keep it for use in any future public inquiry. Our usual address; firstname.lastname@example.org
The documents for you to download and complete are here:
Please help us to keep the lanes open for all to use.
Posted 5 April 2021
Greetings folks, just to give you advance advice that the river crossing at Algreave, Owler’s Bar, has had an official diversion sign and temporary fence erected. The reason behind the diversion is that the now 'closed' to motorists section is actually Wildboarclough FP38.
I know that the shorter crossing has been used by some for years but now things have changed. Please stay to the official route and do not give the antis any ammunition to propose closure of this iconic ford.
Added by Mr P: this is the ford known in trials as Worsleys Wash (after Chris Worsley who was a club stalwart for many years until the 1980's you can see him complete with footing coat and gas mask bag in our video here of our snowy 1968 Boxing Day Trial at Booth Farm)
Posted 12 March 2021
Greetings again folks,
Unfortunately there isn't a specific website for this type of message but please feel free to download a copy of the file (here) and distribute it as far and as wide as you possibly can.
We need to ensure that the truth is told as the people behind the Lake District Green Lane Alliance (an anti motorist group in the Lake District) are mostly the same as those of Peak Horse Power (PHP) and GLEAM (Green Lanes Environmental Action Movement). The same mouths present the same half truths and downright lies no matter who the audience. They are devious and deceitful, well educated academically, eloquent and passionate about their cause no matter how hurtful, alienating and division making it is. They are not prepared to accept compromise and they will not rest until they have closed down all motorists' right to use green lanes plus motor sport on private land, yes even trials events.
I have put the attached file on two other motorcyclists' websites too. I know that the opposition read all of our posts, fine but would they please do the honourable thing and not miss quote us but adopt a mindset to work with us for the benefit of all and stop wasting public funds on vicarious claims.
Peak & Derbyshire Vehicle User Group (PDVUG) and Green Lane Association (GLASS) seek to find ways by which all users including ramblers, cyclists, horse riders, carriage drivers, 4X4 plus motorcyclists may take advantage of the routes.
Posted 20 February 2021
Lockdown is driving (sorry for the pun) us all a bit stair crazy looking for things to do. Well, perhaps you might not have yet completed your user evidence for the lanes still currently under threat?
'Covid' is preventing formal meetings such as Public Inquiries into route classifications but I have no doubt that as soon as possible we will be drawn into the fight again. Our Team has been reviewing our (your) evidence packs and we think it would be beneficial to have more to prove our collective use, especially for the twenty years from the 1980s. Earlier and/or later is fine but it does not fit in to the requirements of the specification required by the Inspector.
Please, if you or somebody you know had used the lanes around Taddington particularly New Lane and/or Broadway and Bulltor Lanes then would you contact our coordinating team at;
We need your input to keep these routes open for all users, they are wide enough for safe flow of users to pass each other, have a good ground base and views that are superb so thank you to those who have already been in contact. TTFN
Posted 6 February 2021 (this is about the posts dated 13 and 11 January below)
Thank you to all who wrote to SCC and requested that the two routes be kept open for all users, just has as it historically has always been in the past. The Consultation has closed and we shall have to wait and see what SCC propose to do next.
Posted 13 January 2021
Greetings, over the past few days I have been asked by a number of motorised green lane users, not off-roaders, for guidance as to the completion of the consultation regarding the proposed repairs to Swan & Limers Rakes. The form should be completed personally, in full, noting that sections 1 through to 7 inclusive are mandatory but complete them all.
My advice is the need to bear in mind that this consultation is not about status change nor anything to do with Traffic Regulation Orders, it is simply about the condition to which the two routes should be repaired. I fully support the ideas of repairs, after years of neglect, but the combination of users of the roads should not solely be blamed for the current poor condition. The routes are public carriageways, but not major highways, so the standard of repairs should be appropriate to be sustainable for all legal users.
Various organisations will be responding on behalf of their Members, we are simply recording as an individual and as such that should be entered in the section marked ‘other.’. It is irrelevant that one may or may not be a Member of any organisation and so again our response should be recorded as an ‘individual’.
We motorcyclists respect and encourage all users to avail themselves of the countryside but for the future we are especially concerned for motorised access to be a priority.
How far one travels to visit the area is personal and related solely to the distance from one’s home to Hollinsclough, where we would welcome to meet and share with all other users.
I ask all motorised users to personally complete their form having regard solely to appropriate repairs;
Posted 11 January 2021
Greetings folks, you may have read elsewhere that Staffordshire CC are conducting a 'consultation' regarding Limers & Swann Rakes at Hollinsclough.
Please respond to Staffs CC as suggested above (posted 13 Jan).
Please pass this message on to our friends.
Posted 15 December 2020
Greetings feet up fans, ’Tis the season to be jolly’ - but not to be silly.
I am not being a Mr Scrooge trying to spoil folks cheer, just a gentle ‘reindeer’ that we need the goodwill of the farming and countryside communities to pursue our sport and hobbies.
We all love playing in the snow and the views around the Peak District are so magical to experience when covered in snow or simply a hard frost, however even Santa has to be careful because despite his magic powers he still cannot see what might be lurking under the friendly soft looking snow.
Sure, a great laugh to fall in to soft snow but out on the lanes there could well be a rather solid grumpy old rock just waiting for a rib or two to land on it. Hurts to laugh after one of those has had a go at your sternum or shoulder.
It is also wise and respectful to stay to the actual route and not wander off piste. Making snow donuts might seem harmless enough but the reality is that it rips up the land making it even harder for farmers to feed their animals, plus now is the time that the grasses are growing ready for spring and if we go riding inconsiderately the crop will fail leaving just mud which is not nice for us to look at nor for beasts to feed on when spring arrives.
So please, have fun days out riding but stay to the routes.
Posted 10 May 2020
Heild End, Burntcliffe Top, Eagle & Child green lane route.
I was in conversation with one of the farmers up at Heild Lane and he asked that I express his gratitude to all the motorcyclists who have been courteous in riding the route over the past couple of years.
Unfortunately, however very recently some misguided people have been going up there and have been creating problems in the locality. As a consequence of this limited but serious behaviour he told me that reluctantly in the near future he intends to partially block the access but he will be leaving enough room for motorcyclists and mountain bikers to get through.
As we already know only vehicles classed as motorcycles may use the route because of the ‘old’ Cheshire TRO.
I am proud to say that in general we motorcyclists and 4X4 users are very welcome in the general area. I am sure that we can all appreciate that acknowledgement especially for when the Covid 19 lockdown ends and we can get back to normal.
Posted 28th April 2020
A quick thank you to all those who have already sent us their completed User Evidence Form/s and map/s for Broadway & Bull Tor lanes plus the adjacent route of New Lane at Priestcliffe (Taddington) see post 5th March below.
Our numbers are impressive but we could benefit from a few more especially from those who used the route during the 1980s, plus any up to 2004. You could have been a rider or passenger or even travelled in a car or 4X4 vehicle.
Part of the problem is that DEFRA has discarded its previous Guidance to Inspectors so there is no real quantitive figure to show presumed dedication by use. Yes, we do have proof of such use but extra numbers would certainly assist to prove one of our points.
Posted 5th March 2020
In 2004 a fellow motorcyclist submitted a Definitive Map Modification Order to have New Lane, Priestcliffe classified as a BOAT. This claim is now being processed by Derbyshire County Council (DCC).
If you have driven/ridden this route pre 2004, then please download and complete the forms, saving a master copy for your records, don't forget to highlight colour your route on to the map plus sign and date it too. Perhaps you may know of somebody else who rode the route but has now ceased to be active, if so please get them to record their use back then too.
Just so that our Team can correlate the submissions into a single batch please send your documents not to DCC but to;
Posted 27th December 2019
Success! Yes, in Derbyshire too, despite the doom and gloom of some we have had success.
After a hard-fought Public Inquiry in November the TRF, GLASS and PDVUG team put the case for Pindale Road, Castleton, being a public carriageway. The independent inspector threw out the Peak Horsepower claim that the route was a bridleway and confirmed the order route as a Byway Open to All Traffic. The decision was aided by User Evidence, local knowledge of the history of the route and to those who attended the inquiry. This shows that a concerted effort by the user groups can protect our ancient rights to drive byways and unclassified roads, despite the discriminative and unfounded claims of bridleway rights and ‘public nuisance’ by anti-motoring pressure groups like GLEAM and PHP.
Posted 2nd November 2019
Greetings, in case you might not know the BBC 'Countryfile Autumn Diaries', Friday 1st November, showed a program about vehicular Green Lane use in the Lake District specifically related to two routes. If you have not seen the program then may I suggest that you take a look.
The interviewer and two of her interviewees made sweeping negative and unsupported statements against folk using perfectly legal vehicles on motorised Rights of Way. Only the representative from Cumbria CC gave any neutral evidential evidence. Noticeable by their absence were the TRF and GLASS, presumably not having been invited. It is clear to me that the BBC is again presenting a bias against recreational motorists and therefore may I request that if you agree with me that the program is biased then would you register a complaint. It takes only a few minutes of your time, go to: https://www.bbc.co.uk/contact/complaints
Posted 21st October 20 19
Last week I attended and addressed the Public Inquiry into Callow Bank, Hathersage. It was proposed to make the route a Bridleway unless we could show evidence of legal dedication or sufficient evidence of motorists proving "Presumed Dedication" by supplying User Evidence. Unfortunately there was very little evidence for the latter claim so I am rather pessimistic about the outcome.
This lack of evidence is a real hindrance to our keeping the majority of the iconic routes that we have used for many years. It is vital that we collect more evidence before the next PI regarding the route at Over Haddon where it crosses the river Lathkill. We also need evidence of use for Broadway Lane leading along Bulltor Lane at Taddington. You could help by recording your use or getting others that you know have ridden them. For Over Haddon we are looking for evidence from 2000, the other lanes from around 1980s. Please contact our coordinator at;
Posted 21st August 2019
Good news folks, another rider has come forward to give evidence from the 1980s. We still need more Broadway/ Bulltor Lane riders & drivers though. Those few that we have will assist but we seriously do need more of you.
Video to remind you of the route;
We ask that you email our team, who will send you a user evidence form to complete which can be sent back to us for correlation - then we will pass the forms on to DCC as a bundle. Before you write anything down please contact our dedicated help line and give them your contact details, then they will send you a form;
Another route that we urgently need your help with is that which runs from Back Lane, Conksbury, just north of Youlgreave. The route passes through the farm yard and field at Meadow Place Grange to finally exit across the ford and up the hill just below Over Haddon. The River Lathkill is the one that generally disappears down to a trickle in good weather summers. For this route we really just need some good evidence of folk simply using the lane, whatever the time period. The video shows the route to remind you of what we might lose;
Again, please initially contact our Team for a form and guidance; email@example.com
Thanks, your patience is appreciated.
Posted 24th June 2019
Jacob’s Ladder, Stoney Middleton.
DCC chose to review this issue at its Committee Meeting, Wednesday last, 19th June 2019. The DCC Officer’s recommendation was to apply a TRO banning all recreational vehicles. Despite our opposition (recorded) plus that of PDVUG, GLASS, APTR and the TRF, an 88% rejection at the online Consultation, the final decision imposed by the Chairman, without any discussion with his Members, was to apply a full motorised TRO on the route. The date will need to be advertised accordingly.
We shall have to wait for the final documentation to be published before any further action can be considered.
Posted 15th June 2019
Greetings, (but potentially as the bringer of bad news)
https://democracy.derbyshire.gov.uk/ieL ... =279&Ver=4
Posted 8th June 2019
From ACU Headquarters June 3rd 2019
In recent weeks we have received the disappointing news that due to issues with illegal riding, the organisers of the Powys Enduro have been forced to cancel the event as a result of withdrawal of permission to use the Dyfi Forest. We are also aware that land used for the Scottish Six Days Trial is under threat due to the same problem, plus we have received reports from other parts of the country who have either lost land or are close to losing it.
The ACU would like to make it clear that the use of Natural Resources Wales (NRW) or Forestry Commission land is strictly controlled and their woods are not a playground for you, likewise permission is needed to ride on open hills etc ;the length and breadth of the country.
Unless the land you intend to ride on is a lawful right of ways or you have specific permission from the landowner you are not allowed to use these areas, your mate down the pub saying it’s OK isn’t considered permission!
The NRW and Forest Commission are taking steps to prevent illegal use and in conjunction with the Police will prosecute anyone caught, you have been warned.
The ACU have already taken action against any licence holders who are caught and will not hesitate to do so in the future.
There are plenty of events you can enter to use you bike legally including numerous practice tracks if you want something less organised. Please, if you are a licence holder, ride responsibly and discourage others if you know they are illegally riding, it’s your events which they are putting at risk!!
A wise man once said it’s not the environmentalists and authorities that will kill motorcycle sport, it will be the sport itself. They could be right - it’s in your hands!
Posted 25th April 2019
Posted 4th April 2019
Posted 4th April 2019
Posted 26th January 2019
Folks, this brief note is to update you about a positive initiative
from Kirklees Council to arrange a joint operation to maintain a "green
lane" which over recent years has fallen into disrepair.
Posted 29th October 2018
Posted 19th October 2018
Do you want to protect your rights to ride and drive green lanes?
The Peak and Derbyshire Vehicle User Group invite you to find out more about what they do by visiting a free 'Open Day' at the Eyre Arms, Calver, S32 3XH, between 12:30pm and 5:00pm on Saturday 27 th October.
Posted 2nd October 2018
We are coming very close to the last
minute to OBJECT to the proposed TRO on Jacobs Ladder. Hugh.
We are coming very close to the last minute to OBJECT to the proposed TRO on Jacobs Ladder.
Posted 20th September 2018
Posted 23rd May 2018
You may have heard or read on other websites that DCC has been pressurised into proposing to restrict all recreational motorised use by imposing a Traffic Regulation Order on Jacobs Ladder, Stoney Middleton.
There is no argument that the route is of BOAT status and that with no current TRO in force we may legally ride it. The crux of the matter is that there are some selfish folk out there who simply want to remove our hobby from existence. I am not making excuses for DCC but they have been forced into this situation by the shear volume of anti motorists availing themselves of the Consultation process instigated by the ignorance, greed or selfish ambitions of just a few. The route is not, as claimed by some, damaged by motorists but entirely by a lack of maintenance on the part of the HA. We have offered to work with the Authorities on many aspects of future maintenance and management of this and similar routes but so far to no avail.
If we are to retain our Rights then we must take respectful action with our colleagues and participate in the Consultation process. There is no requirement for you to live locally nor to have ridden or to be riding the route, it is simply a fact that by shear volume we must OPPOSE the proposed TRO.
Posted 4th April 2018
As many of you will know the PDNPA has opened
communication lines for public consultation regarding the little route
at Wetton, often referred to as the “Manifold Valley route”. PDVUG is of
the combined view that because of the specific circumstances of this
route we could be prepared to support a proportionate Voluntary and/or
seasonal TRO during the wettest months of each year. PDVUG has repeated
its offer to assist the Authorities with
maintenance to prevent any reoccurring deterioration of the surface.
Now you can and should have your say to the PDNPA's consultation,
making it clear that you are an INDIVIDUAL and that
you are OBJECTING to the Authority's proposals for a
full time TRO. Please encourage your colleagues to do the same.
Highlight that with only limited numbers of motorcyclists recorded as
using the route annually then with suitable maintenance and a possible
winter VR there is no need to impose a TRO of any description.
Full details of which are on the PDNPA web site which
you can contact directly using their online system by clicking the
button at the bottom of their web page
or you could write to; Rights of Way, Aldern House, Baslow Road,
Bakewell, Derbyshire DE45 1AE.
GLASS, PDVUG and I have already responded as organisations under the
previous step in the consultation process. Now we will be reinforcing
our case during this public stage and your recording a simple OBJECTION
to the proposal would help add weight to our argument.
Your personal OBJECTIONS must be received by the
Authority no later than 5pm on Friday 6 April 2018. So,
time to act now or we may loose our right to ride this iconic
The other day I received my copy of the Interim report recording the
Inspector's interim decision on this Order, dated 22 March 2018,
proposing that the whole route A-B-C be classified as a BOAT.
Posted 2nd March 2018:
Wetton. Posted 4th April 2018
As many of you will know the PDNPA has opened communication lines for public consultation regarding the little route at Wetton, often referred to as the “Manifold Valley route”. PDVUG is of the combined view that because of the specific circumstances of this route we could be prepared to support a proportionate Voluntary and/or seasonal TRO during the wettest months of each year. PDVUG has repeated its offer to assist the Authorities with maintenance to prevent any reoccurring deterioration of the surface.
Now you can and should have your say to the PDNPA's consultation, making it clear that you are an INDIVIDUAL and that you are OBJECTING to the Authority's proposals for a full time TRO. Please encourage your colleagues to do the same. Highlight that with only limited numbers of motorcyclists recorded as using the route annually then with suitable maintenance and a possible winter VR there is no need to impose a TRO of any description.
Full details of which are on the PDNPA web site which you can contact directly using their online system by clicking the button at the bottom of their web page http://consult.peakdistrict.gov.uk/details.cfm?TROID=11 or you could write to; Rights of Way, Aldern House, Baslow Road, Bakewell, Derbyshire DE45 1AE.
GLASS, PDVUG and I have already responded as organisations under the previous step in the consultation process. Now we will be reinforcing our case during this public stage and your recording a simple OBJECTION to the proposal would help add weight to our argument.
Your personal OBJECTIONS must be received by the Authority no later than 5pm on Friday 6 April 2018. So, time to act now or we may loose our right to ride this iconic route.
Back Lane, Darley Dale.
The other day I received my copy of the Interim report recording the
Inspector's interim decision on this Order, dated 22 March 2018,
proposing that the whole route A-B-C be classified as a BOAT.
Posted 2nd March 2018:
Posted 25th February 2018:
Click on above for a .pdf A4 size version
Posted 10th February 2018:
8 Feb 2018
New Road, Eyam. B6521.
1 Feb 2018
New Lane, Eyam, TTRO
"Great news, hot off the press. This morning PDVUG attended the DCC Highways, Transport and Infrastructure Meeting at which the Temporary TRO placed upon New Lane, Eyam was discussed. I am pleased to report that following requests specifically by PDVUG, GLASS and Manchester 17 MCC the Committee decided, against opposition, in favour of permitting an exemption for use by solo motorcycles. However, we will need to prove that we respect their investment by showing suitable consideration to the residents and other users. I am of course referring specifically to speed, noise and simple common courtesies. The route will be narrow so subject to a nominal speed restraint and it will be monitored for safety. The exemption is expected to come into force around Saturday 10th February 2018 so please allow a week to pass before venturing up there. It is now up to us to prove our worth if we want to try and keep lanes open in the Peak District. TTFN"
The Nations National Parks including The Peak District Nation Park must not be allowed to become the stage for a simple minded plan “for quiet enjoyment” at the cost of the loss of rights, culture, heritage and all those things that added together made them what they are. They are wonderful places not only because of what they look like but because of what can be done there. There is space for everyone to enjoy the parks in their own way and we must not let self-interested groups impose their prejudice on the rest of us. Our national parks are for everyone not just those who want to put a pair of hiking boots and moan at everyone else they come across or those who want to sit and fall asleep looking at a landscape that no longer reflects what made it the way it is.
We, YOU YES – YOU, me and everyone who wants to continue to enjoy our National Parks and, the Peak District in particular, in our way have to stand up NOW and stop the prejudiced Peak District National Park Authority acting to wipe out the rights our fathers enjoyed and with them the heritage and culture that made the parks what they are. This small band of short sighted authoritarians are busy spending huge amounts of our money responding to the completely unjustified demands of well-funded selfish pressure groups to extinguish our rights simply because we are motorcyclists. That is prejudice. And just like everywhere everyone has the responsibility to stand up against it. If we were a religious or racial group we would have been protected against these people – as it is we have to stand up for ourselves. Let’s do just that NOW.
Abbreviations, Initialisms and Acronyms:
BOAT = Byway open to all traffic
TRF = Trail Riders Fellowship (this is the group that we most strongly recommend you join and to support)
LARA = Land Access & Recreation Association (these are the real ROW experts, there is no one better even in government)
LoS = List of streets taken off the definitive map
UEF = User evidence form
PDNPA= Peak District National Park Authority
DCC = Derbyshire County Council
TRO = Traffic restriction order
PDVUG = Peak & Derbyshire Vehicle User Group
GLASS = Green Lane Association