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The Manchester 17 MCC - about us

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Competition Page here : who and what??  BIG prizes

 

History and archive of Manchester 17 MCC
The promised films complements of Gordon Snowball - taken by his Dad George are now on the clubs photo and video sharing site Fotki and linked below. Thanks to Paul Tootal for his efforts in helping track em down.

films  from:1960's including a much improved version of the one we already had

film of the 1970 SSDT

Newsletters from 1947 and then the complete set from 1965 until last one published in Nov 1999

Complete web page archive from 2005 to date

75th Reunion in 2010 - web pages

Dearly missed members

 

General Heritage / history:

Trials heritage

General motorcycling heritage

John Hartle

Dave Rowland

Letters Pages:

email from Tony McConville 18th October 2017

 

Ken, thanks for your reply to my comments on the website. (Fotki photo sharing site)

I started my motorcycle history in September 1971 when I was 16 and attended the Manchester 17MCC RAC/ACU training scheme at that time run by our late Trevor Cowdrey. I passed my test and joined the M/C 17MCC whilst riding my BSA Bantam 175cc. I stayed with the club and In Feb 1977 I took over the running of the training scheme from Trevor. Things changed and the Part one test was born, the training scheme became the ROSPA part one scheme as the RAC/ACU had stopped the normal scheme, however the scheme continued with the addition of the part 1 training and part 1 test. I handed the training to Ken Howard as in 1985 I moved away from Stockport with my job and settled in South West Scotland in TROON. Now retired I still ride but due to health not as much as I would like to.

I do have one of the original cast badges for the club which sits on my desk, I did have the yellow and black pin badge but sadly not really sure where it is. I had a lot of pals down there but as time passes I have lost contact details.

 

It would be great to get some goodies and wonder how many road riders are in the current club, Do you have long distance members ?, if so what is the current membership cost ? looking through the website brought back memories and reminded me of some of the members from the past.

 

Well that is enough rambling for now

 

Regards Tony McConville

 

Club Member from 1971 until 1985


News from Keith Rhodes, 10 December 2016:

Hi Ken,

Sorry about this delay in responding to your donation of the CD showing Trials & Scrambles. I am currently laid up, recovering from a left knee replacement - I now have a matching pair - so what better time to review the CD and the commentary script. It's not going to be instant, but do regard it as work in progress.

Cheers for now ~ KEITH


Got this email from Rick Stewart on10th August 2016:

All

  Just been down to Hazel Grove Plumbing to get some bits & pieces and was halfway across the car park when this bloke in a blue boiler suit coming the other way said Rick Stewart?

  Which was a bit of a surprise as I didnt (initially) recognise him at all!

  But then GRAHAM WATSON identified himself and we stood blocking the way for ages, chatting about whats what, whos where & how, bikes, times past etc.

  • Hes back over here at the moment, working on his house in Marple.

  • Moved from California to N. Carolina but then he & his mate rode their bikes back to San Fran must have forgotten something I guess.

  • He specifically asked about - in no particular order Ron Weale, Vernon, Henry, Paul T, Ken, Gordon and others.

  • Biking scene is totally different over there.  Good, long roads but boring.  He really misses biking over here,the good times passed with the club and the good mates.

  • He did a 10 week touring trip in Europe Albania, Italy etc.

  • I pointed out that wed recently had a lot of the old newsletters put onto the website hes already seen them.

Neither of us had anything with which to write numbers down but I gave him my business card so he has a method of getting in touch should he wish to do so.

 

Rick


email from Paul Tootall 15th June 2016:

Hi Ken,

Went out for lunch with Dave Abrahams yesterday and chatted about old times in the Manchester 17 MCC.

He went to a First Aid/CPR course in Marple today and rang me to say that the instructors were Nev Watts and his wife, Pat.

Nev was an active road racer in the 60s - 80s on 125 and 178 Hondas, especially enjoying the Isle of Man where he competed in 29 TTs and 6 Classic Manx GPs.

His best finishes included a 5th place in the 1971 Lightweight TT and 4th in both the 1988 and 1989 Classic Lightweight Manx GPs. Nev always had the Manchester 17 MCC badge on his helmet and won our John Simister Trophy several times:

I lost touch with Nev around 2010 when I saw his house in Mellor up for sale and the e-mail address went offline but I now have his new e-mail address and will try to persuade him to share some memories for the club website.

 

Paul Tootall


Nostalgia:

email from Keith Rhodes to Paul Tootall 26 May 2016:

Subject: Re: Nostalgia

 

Hi Paul,

 

Happy, happy memories indeed, and thanks for sending this Nostalgia Trip. I've only just started to look into your fine archives and an hour has passed already!

 

Derek Anyon's letter to Keith Haining caught my eye first, since it contained the name of Bert Lacey. Bert was a good friend of my father, Ken Rhodes - who worked for Renold Chains and was a M/Cr Eagle Member [but we won't mention the 'Eagle' word again]. I would have been about 7 or 8 years of age [so we're talking 1955/56] when Bert took my father and I up in his aeroplane from Barton Moss airfield for a quick spin. What a great experience for us both. Sadly Bert was killed only a matter of weeks later when he caught the under carriage coming into land and turned the plane upside down. I guess this is the sad side to good old nostalgia!

 

I then foraged into some of your newsletters and found myself as temporary editor, along with Dave Rowland, Moses and it seems anyone who cared to write something up. What a great club we had. There was mention of the helicopter fund, which story Bradders and I have dined on for years. But, only last year in my current club - The East Sussex Section of the Vintage Motor Cycle Club, I spoke to a 'new pal' Tim Eade who was rather quick in the 70s and later on a sidecar outfit racing in the Manx GP. He remembered our funding efforts to replace the Castrol rescue helicopter and admitted that for many weeks it was touch and go whether the Manx MCC would run the event at all. 

 

In that same newsletter we ran an advert thus:

FOR SALE - 250 cc Husqvarna Sprite American Eagle, cadmium plated frame, Ceriani forks, Husky front wheel Very quick, this machine is a race winner, will accept Racquel Welch or 125 Tel: G Greaves 061-439 4732

  The said Guy Greaves, owner of the machine, and I were apprentices in the CEGB - he at Stuart Street P.S. and me at Agecroft P.S., both in Manchester from 1964 until 1969. We are still in touch some 50+ years later. I've made a 'note to self' to ask Guy which he received from the sale - the lovely Racquel or 125!

  Must go and get some tea but, just in passing, we came up to Belle Vue in March for the fateful opening of the National Speedway Stadium and the Peter Craven Memorial Trophy. What a fantastic venue but what a wash out evening with no racing!! 

Still we had a nice meal in the VIP suite:

Cheers for now and my regards to anyone who cares ~ KEITH & HILARY

 

PS: in my next epistle I'll share a story from just last week when I met a chap in a bar in Majorca [you know how it happens]. He knew John Hartle quite well and we concluded after some pints that we must have raced against each other at Hatherton Hall in the late 60s.

 

You couldn't write it, but that's old bikers for you!  Be good ~ Keith